In this episode of the Saturate Podcast, Brad Watson and Jeff Vanderstelt talk about the tension many believers face: they want to see the way they’re being discipled and discipling others transformed into what they see in the Bible (or read in Saturate). They’re convicted. They’re bought in. But, it’s hard to know what to do. The reality is, being convicted and repentant, they’re on a journey of making a micro and macro shifts over the course of time.